Community improvements - We've been listening!

Hi all,

I’ve got some good news. We’ve been looking over your feedback and working on as many of your suggestions as possible for the last week and have got some improvements planned for next week. So we wanted to give you an update on where we’ve got to, next week’s improvements, what’s still to come, what we’re unfortunately not able to change and what the next steps are after these first updates.

 

Next Week’s Improvements

Text styling

We’re aware many of you were having difficulty with the default text styling. The text is going to be made darker overall, larger in most places and bolder in some places. We will also make the text links more consistent and clearer.

Some of the changes that were made as part of the community upgrade were to bring the styling in line with the main RSPB website - it’s important that we have a consistent look across all of our sites and the old community website had fallen away from these as it’s been a while since it was last upgraded. However, there are a lot of places where these have to be changed in the software and in many places the text was showing ‘default’ settings - the lighter grey text for example. This is where there have been some visibility issues which should be improved next week.

 

Forum post ordering & layout

One of the things we know you’ve been keen to see improves is how posts and replies have been displayed.

With the software upgrade came a new layout to post threads. This meant that replies to previous posts were indented or ‘nested’ which can make it harder to follow the order of replies. Also, it required clicking through multiple pages to get to the end of very long threads.

We plan on switching off the nesting entirely. When you reply to a previous post, it will show as ‘in reply to…’ next to your name in the post. The order of posts will also be reversed so that the latest posts show at the top rather than the bottom, so there’s no need to click through pages to get to the end of the thread. There will still be buttons at the top with ‘Oldest’ and ‘Newest’ so you can switch between these.

This all means that you will see a ‘flat’ list of all replies to the original post shown at the top of the page, going from most recent down to oldest. Clicking on the ‘Reply’ button shown under the original post will add to the thread as a whole, or the ‘Reply’ button under every individual reply will reply to that post itself.

We’re also adding a ‘Latest posts’ list on the right of the page (or bottom, on phones) which will show the latest 10 posts within that forum. This will replace the ‘Related’ post list which didn’t seem to be very relevant according to your survey feedback.

 

Community home page layout

We’re going to increase both the number of recent forum posts and recent blog posts shown on the homepage, from 10 to 15 (forum posts) and 5 to 9 (blog posts). Bear in mind that you can click through the pagination at the bottom of the forum posts to see more, and we’ve added this to the blog posts too.

We’re also adding a similar feature for photos, so you can view the latest photo/video uploads from the homepage.

On the right of the page (on larger screens, or the bottom on phones), we’re improving the lists here to show the most popular 10 forums and blogs. We have an awful lot of both and hopefully this should make it easier to find them.

 

Section pages

(ie. the main pages for Wildlife, Places to Visit, Get Involved, Our Work, Chat & About)

All of these pages are being improved to make them align with the main community homepage. This means that rather than just displaying the forums and blogs that live within them, they will also show all the latest forum and blog posts, more like before the upgrade.

Media uploads

The upload limit for attachments will be increased to 5Mb per file. We are continuing to look into how we can alter the software to have different default display sizes of images and video, once we have an answer on this we will let you know how we intend to update and improve this.

 

Post/blog content

A couple of people in the survey responded that they thought some content was moved or removed as part of the upgrade. It’s important to point out that no content was moved or deleted at all (except for a bit of spam that had crept in!). It’s all still in exactly the same place as before; the software upgrade changed nothing more than page layouts and styling.

Hopefully the upcoming changes will make it easier to navigate around and find what you’re looking for, but rest assured that it’s all still there.

 

Still to come

Reply box

We’re still looking at ways of making it easier to reply to a forum post, including having the reply box open by default.

 

Sticky header

We’re looking at removing the ‘sticky’ header so that the area at the top of the page doesn’t ‘lock’ in place as you scroll down, taking up some screen space.

 

Forum pages

We’re looking at ways of to make it easier to skip through pages of the forums by page number instead of having to click on a button to load the next page one at a time. If we do manage this then we may switch the post order back so that the oldest ones are shown first and the latest ones are at the bottom, but you’d start off at the latest page.

 

We’re not able to change

Who’s online

There used to be a list of users currently online which some people mentioned in the survey that they miss. This isn’t a feature available in the new software, though each user does have a coloured dot next to them to indicate whether they’re online or not… green if so, grey if not.

Next steps

Next week we’ll implement these improvements and comment on this thread to let you know. Once this is live take some time have a look around and get used to what will have changed then let us know here what we should look at improving next. It’s in our plan that for future improvements you’ll be asked for suggestions and we want to get you involved in the testing stages as well, to make sure this remains your community.

Thanks again to everybody for your patience and helping to feed into how we can improve.

  • I have had the same Ann, maybe 6 notifications that were years old and some I don't even remember or think I posted on. Very odd.

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

  • Catlady, Did you also happen to notice if the notifications took you to an old thread where a comment had been deleted?

    Kind regards, Ann

  • ""Our updates and improvements mentioned in my main post have now gone live so you should see an improvement in how easy it is to navigate around the community.

    In addition to the changes mentioned above we have managed to minimise the header interference (although unfortunately we've so far only been able to do this in desktop view not mobile) and we have also fixed the emoji alignment issue spotted by yesterday as well.

    Have a look around, give it a bit of time to get used to the changes then continue to let us know what you like or don't like with the community so we can get the best picture of how to make the community as good as it can be.""

    Well my opinions haven't changed since the first day. I like to read down a page not up it!

    I also struggle to use the quote as every time the cursor gets near it, it disappears. I had to add a bit on by copy & paste to get the full quote above.

    Please, please do something!

    EDIT there you go, quote didn't work again, had to do it in bold!!!

    Best wishes

    Hazel in Southwest France

  • I also struggle to use the quote as every time the cursor gets near it, it disappears

    Highlighting for a quote,does move very quickly. Suggestion, that I wonder may help.

    Be sure to STOP HIGHLIGHT at the comma or fullstop.( you should see "quote")

    Move your cursor to any empty white space, area after this , bring cursor , back to the word quote ,by going UNDERNEATH your highlight bit.

    If your cursor touches blue highlight ( goes haywire)

    Also if you  dont STOP at end of line, and your highlight includes (votes cancel more), the quote will keep disappearing.

    Hope that may help.

     

  • I like to read down a page not up it!

    Hi, sorry if I have the wrong end of the stick, but does clicking on "oldest" rather than "newest" help? Ian

  • I got a message that I have a popula file. What is that all about. I cant find an explanation on the site. 

  • I like to read down a page not up it!

    "Hi, sorry if I have the wrong end of the stick, but does clicking on "oldest" rather than "newest" help? Ian"

    No Ian it doesn't help because it takes you back to the start of the thread, in this case 19 days ago. All I want is to read the last day or so comments in the right order from top to bottom. In the old thread you could go back a page or 2 & find where you left off. If I tap on Oldest on the insect threads which are started in January you would have to scroll through a whole year. To be honest I'm close to giving up. It's just not fun any more.

    Thanks Kate, every time I get near it it still disappears, but did manage to add some lost words into the above quote! i'm just not quick enough! LOL

    EDIT No still can't get quote to work, it said it would but lost the bottom half. Grrrrrrr. Just don't have the time any more to struggle!

    Best wishes

    Hazel in Southwest France

  • No Ann, the only thing I noticed on one thread was it was now closed. The others I opened and when I saw that they were old, I came out of them.

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

  • Hi Hazel, this is exactly what I wish they would change, I hate the last post at the start, you are reading backwards and as you say going to the end, takes you days back. Please if you are reading this IT team, change the posting back to the way we had it.

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

  • No Ian it doesn't help

    I might have known it wouldn't be as simply as I had hoped. Ian