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A thread about Plant seeds

Anonymous
Anonymous

hi there

I took a picture of this Thistle seed(s) head

It was sitting on my lawn today

Any ideas what type of Thistle it is?

Regards

Kathy and Dave

  • Well, there's not a lot to go on but it could be....

    Creeping Thistle

    Marsh Thistle

    Spear Thistle

    Meadow Thistle

    or Saw-wort

    or Common Knapweed

    or Greater Knapweed

     

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous 11/07/2010 19:49 in reply to juno

    Hi Juno

    Thank you for your reply.

    Is there a way for a positive ID, Juno?

    Should I split the seeds into smaller clumps for a better look, or are seeds such as thistles not easiest to ID as a rule of thumb.

    Regards

    Kathy and Dave

  • Hi Blackbird,

    If you could have taken a photo of the leaves as well as the whole plant then that would make it easier to identify which one of the thistles it is.

    Thistle flowers are beautiful to look at but on the whole the plants are a pain{scuse pun} with their sharp spines and are best got rid of if you have them growing amongst your plants or in your grass.

     Being Happy doesn't mean everythings perfect........

    It means you've decided to see beyond the imperfections.....

  • Hi Blackbird

    Thistles can be tricky when the whole plant isnt seen if it is the Creepiing Thistle it should be heavily scented These attract a lot of bees and butterflies because of their rich nectar source

    More Here  http://www.judywoods.dial.pipex.com/British%20Wild%20Flowers.html

    There are quite a few that look alike so the more info on leaves etc the better, in some cases especially umbellifers the seeds can be a main determinant but under a high powered magnifer or microscope

    Best Wishes

    Colin D

    Visit http://www.ukwildlife.dial.pipex.com for Natural History Species and accounts

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous 11/07/2010 21:20 in reply to Robyn

    Hi Robyn

    Thank you for your reply

    I only saw the seed head in this case on its own minus any leaves.

    It must have blown in from somewhere or another with the slight winds we have been having of late.

    Must try to get a full seed head, and the leaves and I will post as mentioned in the future.

    I agree, that Thistles can be a bit dominant anywhere they grow so I will keep a check on them - though a couple of odd ones in a little wildlife garden area would be a good thing too for bird and butterflies alike.

    Prefer the ones that grow tall with the purple flower over the short stalky bushy ones with the 'ouch' prickles that invade all areas of lawn with vengance

    Regards

    Kathy and Dave

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous 11/07/2010 21:23 in reply to Wild Life Ranger

    Thank you Colin for your very informative reply

    Your link is a great help, and I will see what matches what I have got with my seeds.  I still have the seed head on my table at the moment.

    Will take a deeper look asap - when finished unpacking some more boxes in my house

    Regards

    Kathy and Dave

    Unknown said:

    Hi Blackbird

    Thistles can be tricky when the whole plant isnt seen if it is the Creepiing Thistle it should be heavily scented These attract a lot of bees and butterflies because of their rich nectar source

    More Here  http://www.judywoods.dial.pipex.com/British%20Wild%20Flowers.html

    There are quite a few that look alike so the more info on leaves etc the better, in some cases especially umbellifers the seeds can be a main determinant but under a high powered magnifer or microscope

    Best Wishes

    Colin D

     

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous 12/07/2010 05:17 in reply to Anonymous

    Hi Colin

    I have had a look at your link and I see there are a few Thistles and plants similar to Thistles.  so i can see where the confusion is going here - the leaves are a must have for ID purposes.

    So I will see if there is a plant which has the same seeds on it and will post the leaves (or look up your site).

    Still it would be interesting to see what the plant is as it will help people remember too.

    Regards

    Kathy and Dave

  • Hi kathy & Dave

    Hope you a had a good day. Great that you even looked at the thistles as everyone passes them by  -they are the home of many an insect too. keep us all posted with your interesting finds

    Best wisshes

    Colin D

    Visit http://www.ukwildlife.dial.pipex.com for Natural History Species and accounts

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous 12/07/2010 05:32 in reply to Wild Life Ranger

    Hi Colin

    I had a great day today..... though it was hot as everyone knows

    Years ago my former x-husband who I met in a conservation group was a keen botonist - degree in Botany (interested like yourself)  and he taught me a lot about plants/leaves etc....

    Sadly I have not kept the practice going, so it has faded a bit.  Still I know in my own heart I am still very interested in plants and learning a lot more about them yet.

    So it is one of these thing that you need to keep working on and that is what I want to do  - no matter how common the plant is - it is still interesting to me.

    As you say a plant is a home, and a food source to many an insect and creature and it is part of the food chain too.

    Looking forward to many more chats yet.

    Regards

    Kathy and Dave

  • Hello Blackbird

    I have an enormous Scottish thistle growing in my garden this year - it's now about 8 feet tall -the stem is a grey/blue and the seed heads are out now - they are purple. The bees seem very keen on them and I'm hoping the goldfinches might like them too.

    The thistle must have been brought by the birds or the wind I suppose - it's in the middle of my cottage garden where it looks very out of place! Must say I don't particularly want another one next year!

    I was hoping we would have had some rain overnight but seems we have missed out again - garden is so dry.

    I'm on hooliday this week so am hoping to get outside and do some trips out - hope to go to Pegsdon Hills for a walk so don't mind if it's a bit cooler.

    Have found a picture of the thistle I took a few weeks ago - it's grown since then!

     Jazzcat