What is the truth about hen harriers

Sadly there is no future until somehow shoots are brought into dialogue into how is it possible for Grouse and Hen Harriers to live in reasonable numbers side by side,all my ideas have been shot down but until there is serious intention to save the Hen Harrier in England by bodies pretending to care and not recognising it is so easy to avoid prosecution by people killing them there is no hope for them.All the above comment proves is how easy that is.To say it is a crime to kill a Hen Harrier is like saying it is a crime to drive with a mobile to your ear,impossible to police and when caught the punishment is slap on wrist for both crimes.  

Hi Mac sadly almost everyone does not understand how easy it is for someone who dislikes H H and is in charge of a massive area of land to (ACCIDENTALY)tread on a H H nest and of course even if no one believes it accidental however could you prove otherwise.We see them when we go to Mull and it always seems strange to me that lots of money paid out to get Eagle numbers up but no one dare to suggest money to get H H numbers up and indeed I am not against paying to get Eagle numbers up or for that matter the amount spent on 20 Cranes in Somerset levels must be colossal,so why not for a magnificent bird like H H,it beats me and it must almost have been extinct in England for several decades if not a century.Lets face it there is no likelihood of it getting better with cuts in police force unless someone such as RSPB really focuses on solving the problem at source rather than trying to get convictions. 

 

Hi-

if your RSPB subscription does NOTHING but help protect Hen Harriers then it was worth the money

 

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michael s said:

Hi Mac sadly almost everyone does not understand how easy it is for someone who dislikes H H and is in charge of a massive area of land to (ACCIDENTALY)tread on a H H nest and of course even if no one believes it accidental however could you prove otherwise.We see them when we go to Mull and it always seems strange to me that lots of money paid out to get Eagle numbers up but no one dare to suggest money to get H H numbers up and indeed I am not against paying to get Eagle numbers up or for that matter the amount spent on 20 Cranes in Somerset levels must be colossal,so why not for a magnificent bird like H H,it beats me and it must almost have been extinct in England for several decades if not a century.Lets face it there is no likelihood of it getting better with cuts in police force unless someone such as RSPB really focuses on solving the problem at source rather than trying to get convictions. 

 hi sooty i could not believe all the post re hen harriers and the lack of support from certain quarters,this was on the raptor forum, also the carrying on with the eagle owls, to which i have a bit of an insight, it just makes you wonder, thanks for that, will keep a check cheers mac

seymouraves said:

 

Hi-

if your RSPB subscription does NOTHING but help protect Hen Harriers then it was worth the money

,.,S

Quite agree with that remark,Seymouraves,it makes me a bit ashamed that my home county of N.Yorkshire is one of the worst for raptor persecution and the moors where we do a lot of birding is one of the worst in the county.It is very hard to police not only because of the shortage of manpower but also it takes place generally in areas quite remote and the culprits are very knowledgeable of the area where thet operate.There must be some solution to this and no doubt the RSPB are working hard at it behind the scenes.The new proposals in Scotland where the shoot owners are held resposible,only time will tell.The web site "raptor politics" is worth a read for those interested in this problem,