Hi Everyone
Seen a strange site this morning and wondered if anyone had any ideas.
One of my Robins has been gathering 4-5 mealworms at a time and taking them to feed his Mrs in a garden over the road. (Ungrateful little devil - I am sure my garden would make a better nesting site!! ha ha ) This morning he was sat on the bush in our garden next to a dense hedge and another one came and sat by him and I thought he would chase it off, as he usually does with other Robins, but he got 2 worms and went and fed her. This happened about 3 times and then she flew into the hedge and he got 4 more worms and flew to the garden over the road. Has he got 2 wives?? does this happen with Robins?
Sorry if this is a daft question! but it was fascinating to watch him. It was definately not a youngster.
Chez
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Hi Chez,
Not a daft question at all! Can I ask if you're certain that this 2nd female's not the original mate? Plus, the pair may have well grown young in the nest, with both adults out collecting food. Anyway, have a gander here in "Introduction":
http://www.jstor.org/pss/3676084
Hope this helps.
Robins confuse me too lol. I have 4 or 5 that visit my garden for food daily. The only one that doesn't get chased out rather rapidly is the female whom the male allows to share his territory this time of the year. I thought they were al the same Robin until very close observations revealed that it was 3 other males after the bounty of food in my garden. Could the Robins you are seeing be different ? I have read that males are very good parents and if the female leaves to start another brood will continue the feeding on their own; They have even been known to feed the young of other birds like the Blackbird. Robins can have 2 or 3 broods a season.
Hi Chez
Just to mention I saw two Robins together happily feeding from my ground feeder together this morning .
Tried to get a picture of them together but not quite on time.
Regards
Kathy and Dave
Unknown said: Hi Chez, Not a daft question at all! Can I ask if you're certain that this 2nd female's not the original mate? Plus, the pair may have well grown young in the nest, with both adults out collecting food. Anyway, have a gander here in "Introduction": http://www.jstor.org/pss/3676084 Hope this helps.
Thanks for that article mickycoop.
All last year this Robin had been coming for mealworms at breeding time, he takes loads and flies straight over the road to the nest. I did post another thread last week as he started doing the same last week and I thought it a bit early for the eggs to have hatched, I received replies telling me that it would be the female he was feeding whilst she was sitting. But today he was getting the worms and feeding them to her only about 1 yard away from him and she was eating them. She then flew off in one direction - into the hedge and he collected 4-5 more and flew as usual to the nest in the other direction. I suppose she could have gone to the nest the long way round!!
If they were both feeding chicks wouldn't she collect them herself and fly back to the nest like him - or is that another daft question??!!
Hi Chez, a pleasure,
Once again, not at all. Personally, I don't believe any question's daft, it's what science is all about.
The male might be responding to the female's stimuli and feeding her. Although (assumedly) she's already produced young, and, therefore, no longer requires the food energy to do so, she still needs to keep herself in good condition, especially given that, as Lynette pointed out, Robins are multi-brooded. It's possible that this is also the male's motivation in feeding her. After all, above his own survival, his primary aim is to protect his own genetic investment, and maximise his lifetime reproductive success.
Hope this helps, don't hesitate to ask, any time.
I've had a bit of a dig around, hope these are of interest:
http://econpapers.repec.org/article/oupbeheco/v_3a13_3ay_3a2002_3ai_3a5_3ap_3a637-642.htm
http://www.umt.edu/mcwru/TEMWebsite/files.pdf/Martin%201987%20Ann%20Rev%20Ecol%20Syst%20Food%20Limitation.pdf
Good idea, if you dig long enough the robin will follow you and sit on your spade ;)
S
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Thanks Mickycoop
The first article was very interesting but I only got to page 17 of 35 of the second before my eyes glazed over and my brian shut down!!! lol
A bit over my head I am afraid but I will go back to it and keep reading till it sinks in!! never a one to let anything beat me!
Sorry for the delay in responding but it is the financial year end and I have to work late most nights this week to get on top of everything so can only jump in and out of the forums.... all say ahhhh!
Thanks again
It's cool Chez, no problem. This sort of stuff's not to everyone's taste, but it gives a good example of the quality of research available.
All the best,
MC
Yes it is very in depth. Just seen your pic of a fieldfare, I have not seen one to date. What part of the world do you live in - if you don't mind me asking?
Got another puzzle with the Robin today, he fed his Mrs - as usual - then she flew into the hedge - as usual - then he flew over the road - as usual - then 30 seconds later he came back, still with the worms in his beak and joined her in the hedge!!
I think my poor little Robin might have alzheimer's - he can't remember where his nest is -- or does he have 2??? the mystery deepens!