me and my family didnt know they had closed down but when i asked her when they closed down she said it was in January last year. we didnt know they had closed down until recently. its interesting what they say about the breeding project there working on in Newent I had no idea they were doing that in the forest of dean and that that was one of the reasons they closed
in case anyone is interested this is how there doing on the project
https://naturalengland.blog.gov.uk/2023/08/08/a-promising-first-year-of-the-hen-harrier-conservation-breeding-programme-and-reintroduction/
I wasn't aware Newent had closed its doors. Thanks for posting. Re hen harriers, captive breeding pgm, potential releasing etc.......all very controversial. As you may have noticed, supporters (under acknowledgements) are lacking bird and wildlife charities who are against what is going on still (unless I've missed something). Shooting industry seems keen to press ahead with it. Re ICBP, funding may have dictated decisions. Are tax payers funding ICBP now, via Natural England and contracts? Ultimately, unless the causes of hen harrier declines/number limits are addressed properly, schemes like this will likely fail. Introducing hen harriers isn't comparable to introducing red kites, or even white tailed eagles. Wiltshire, and neighbouring counties like Glos have lots of shooting interests, and it's just swapping red grouse out and red legged partridges and pheasants in. Everything else is the same as up in northern England where hen harrier numbers aren't increasing. The other issue is 'statistics'. Even if a few hen harriers are released, counting those releases as 'proof' of England's hen harrier population improving is misuse of stats.
stealthybutnotthatstealthy said:I wasn't aware Newent had closed its doors. Thanks for posting. Re hen harriers, captive breeding pgm, potential releasing etc.......all very controversial. As you may have noticed, supporters (under acknowledgements) are lacking bird and wildlife charities who are against what is going on still (unless I've missed something). Shooting industry seems keen to press ahead with it. Re ICBP, funding may have dictated decisions. Are tax payers funding ICBP now, via Natural England and contracts? Ultimately, unless the causes of hen harrier declines/number limits are addressed properly, schemes like this will likely fail. Introducing hen harriers isn't comparable to introducing red kites, or even white tailed eagles. Wiltshire, and neighbouring counties like Glos have lots of shooting interests, and it's just swapping red grouse out and red legged partridges and pheasants in. Everything else is the same as up in northern England where hen harrier numbers aren't increasing. The other issue is 'statistics'. Even if a few hen harriers are released, counting those releases as 'proof' of England's hen harrier population improving is misuse of stats.
I have noticed that it says conservation charitys are in support of it. it doesnt say what charitys though. so i wondered why if it is controversal i would say that could be one of the reasons. in reference to the are tax payers funding ibp now. cause of my learning dusability i dont understand tax or bills so if its related to taxes in relation to funding i dont know the answer but others mighf do. but that aside for the rest of what you said
if they werw to release the birds of prey though they would of been wild ones that have been put in captivaty to breed and then release. instead of bringing a wild bird from the wild to the uk, satalite tag them to keep track of there movements and what they do then release into the wild since its conservation breeding so yes. also iv recently found out about another comtroversal situation that has ocured this year aswell. a method where they take hen harrior eggs for monitering hen harior populations but of course with this captive breeding however which is a differant technique the international bird if prey centre are clearly hopeful. in the article it has aknoledged other conservation charitys but it doesnt say what ones however iv recently found an article that says some called conservation charitys dont agree with it like you said was the case but its the way its phrased that is not quiet acurate i should point out. still it says why they dont and the RSPB is one of them
Article about Bid of Prey Centres! Some of this I don’t agree witih!
Regards,
Ian.
Article about the Moorland Association. I do know more about that organisation.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0006320723001738
Illegal killing associated with gamebird management accounts for up three-quarters of annual mortality in Hen Harriers Circus cyaneus-ScienceDirect. Report from earlier this year 2023. Long scientific report!