Small birds at Rutland Water Lagoon 4 Plover hide

Hi all,

Sorry I do not have a photo as the birds were too well camouflaged for my camera to pick out but there were about half a dozen or so on the bank of the lagoon (out of the right hand window of the hide) feeding and immediately I thought hmm funny place for Dunnocks as that is my best initial description, seemingly Grey and brown. However, I was not convinced and on closer inspection I could see a much longer tail which appeared black/brown and white. Looking through my bird book I could not really get to a satisfactory answer and the guy next to me was no help either. Initial thoughts of Linnets were only dispelled by the fact there was not a patch of red on show but I suppose they could all have been females??

Any suggestions? Even the bird identifier couldn't really help! (they definitely weren't Reed Buntings either)

 

  • Anonymous
    0 Anonymous 19/04/2010 20:06

    Hi Nick and Jo,

    Your description does, superficially sound like Linnets. Might I ask if you own a field guide, and if you take it with you when birding?

    MC:-)

  • Hi Nick and Jo,

    going off your brief description and ruling out Linnets and Reed Buntings!

    The only bird that I can think of that may fit your description are Twite!

    Did you notice bill shape & colour, leg colour, markings on flanks, breast, throat, belly, rump, back, mantle, nape etc!

    Regards Buzzard

    Nature Is Amazing - Let Us Keep It That Way

  • Anonymous
    0 Anonymous 19/04/2010 20:52 in reply to Buzzard

    Hi Buzzard, can I pick your brains?

    If you don't mind me asking, why would you rule out Linnets?

    MC:-)

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    Hi,

    I often find the pale in a Twites tail hard to see on the ground- contra Linnets. Linnet has got to be more likely than Twite if you go by the numbers....:)

    Conjecture?  I hate it  most of the time, but I may hazard a guess and say I might change my mind   :)

     

    S

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  • Unknown said:

    Hi Buzzard, can I pick your brains?

    If you don't mind me asking, why would you rule out Linnets?

    MC:-)

     

    Hi MC,

    I didn't rule out Linnets!

    The poster of the question ruled them out as they way I read it?

    They stated non of the birds showed any red or pink on the chest or forehead!!!

    Would you get a flock of Linnets without males!

    The other bird that came to mind was Meadow Pipit, I ruled that out based on the info given!

    I'm also not sure about the numbers S: are you saying they should be more or less Twite!

    Regards Buzzard

     

    Nature Is Amazing - Let Us Keep It That Way

  • mmmm, difficult one. must admit it was linnets I thought of as I read your query.  Guide books can sometimes can be more trouble than help with huge differences in plates.  Hope someone can help u,  - think you're just going to have to go back for another look.

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  • Anonymous
    0 Anonymous 20/04/2010 03:22 in reply to Buzzard

    Hi Buzzard,

    My mistake, no offence intended.

    MC:-)

  • Unknown said:

    Hi Buzzard,

    My mistake, no offence intended.

    MC:-)

    Hi Micky,

    certainly no offence here?

    Not sure why you feel as though you may have offended me!

    I interpretated the post that certain birds had been ruled out including Linnets!

    With little or no info to go on it makes identification somewhat difficult, I like most other members give what I think could be the answer.

    I take no offence to anyones comments.

    Regards Buzzard

    Nature Is Amazing - Let Us Keep It That Way

  • Anonymous
    0 Anonymous 20/04/2010 03:53 in reply to Buzzard

    Hi Buzzard,

    Sorry mate, It's difficult to gauge the mood of the writer without emoticons (I don't really like them, but I do find them useful). I mistakenly took the multiple exclamation marks as a sign of irritation, due to me missing your point. Beg your pardon.

    All the best,

                        MC:-)

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    Hi guys ,

    Any Twite would seem to be an exceptionally good and unusual record at Rutland  Water. A flock would be outstanding.  Linnet is far more likely.  No date seems to have been given. 

     

    S

    btw :))  Having communicated on here for awhile now with Buzzard, MC and  Highland McH I think the four of us are all big enough and silly enough and with enough  senses of humour to not fall out on here :)

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