DAILY UPDATE (LG nest) Sunday 17 June 2012

How many of us are torn between dread and hope for the new day to come?

The peace and quiet of the LG nest is punctuated solely by unalarming chick noises.  Long may that last.

  • What started off as a happy day for me with it been our anniversary has now turned into a sad day with the death of chick three now wished i hadn't  looked in

  • Perhaps those who wish to advise others to 'go away and watch something else' etc should read back to the start of the relevant discussions on the blog,  then they would realise such comments have already, politely, been answered.

  • What has been witnessed today, while sad, is just normal behaviour for birds of prey. Don't forget that Ospreys are killing machines. Their whole survival depends upon their ability to kill fish on a regular basis. Killing weaker siblings is also imprinted on them and while it does not always happen it is very common. First hatched Owls will often not only kill the youngest in the brood,  in times of food shortage they will consume it. That is Nature.

    For every live cuckoo we have, there will be several dead chicks of the surrogate species.

    That's just the way it is. Nature is not cuddly, it is efficient and has to be respected for that.

  • Limpy said:
    Having  been watching and reading what is being said...

    But not carefully enough, Limpy.  You seem to be one of those who has misinterpreted our concerns and confused the issue.

    The long-awaited Blog reported that everything was hunky-dory on the nest, and when some of us posted that a fish shortage had caused unusually violent aggression, particularly towards #3, the response understated the immediate threat to #3 and was condescending and dismissive.  

    I believe that there was initially nothing wrong with #3 other than its size, which made it easy to repel from food with intimidating, injurious and painful attacks so that it was weakened physically and mentally.   It then became a weakling to be eliminated.

  • Unknown said:

    Thank you for the advice and this is what I believe I will do  

    What has happened to the the third chick is what can happen in nature - not great, but this happens and it would have been wrong for the rspb to interfere.

    People that do not understand this should give up wataching and take up something else -

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    Limpy,

    I agree that the Centre should not have become involved in the goings on, on the nest.

    However I think you are being a bit unkind in telling people to go away and do something else. We all have differing opinions and attitudes, this is an open forum and the diversity of the people here is it's strength.

    Now I'm away to bed.

    [/quote] I am sorry that some people do not understand what happens in nature,  but they should not expect humans to intervene and play God.

    Nature has a way of sorting itself out without human intervention, as you can see from the state of the world we can't sort ourself out ie wars, and killing so we should be the last to interfere with nature.

    I am sorry if I hurt anybody's feelings but I have a habit of saying what I think andstanding by that.

    "Birds are, quite simply, little miracles - and as such they require care and consideration."

    Magnus Ullman

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  • just thought I would add that I do not mind at all about the centres blogs etc. The centre runs on the wonderful use of volunteers who are doing us all a service. The staff there cannot predict everything and Richard DID respond to the request for his opinion and wrote a blog for us. He gave his honest opinion that he thought all would be well and I thought wrote a great blog. It has not turned out that way but in any case, the outcome would have been the same- they would not have intervened even if they thought something was wrong as there were no "unnatural" circumstances to warrant intervention. It is nature and a lesson to us all-and that we humans should not pick and choose where we intervene- that in my opinion is when humans start to play god (so to speak) and often makes things worse. However I completely symphathise for all those on this blog who are devastated, it was not at all nice to see.

    ps welcome happysnappa- I hope you really do not feel you had a bad welcome- it has been a horrible few days and many on this blog devout a lot of time and emotional effort and feelings are running high

  • Unknown said:

    That's just the way it is. Nature is not cuddly, it is efficient and has to be respected for that.

    I don't remember anyone saying that it was cuddly.
    It is interesting to note that, were ideas of natural selection, survival of the fittest and efficiency to be applied to their logical conclusion, ospreys would already be extinct, as would many other species of animal, since we are the top predator.

    "Only two things are infinite - the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not too sure about the universe..." - Albert Einstein