LLYN BRENIG, LLYN CLYWEDOG WELSH OSPREY PROJECTS CAPTURES & UPDATES APRIL 2020 TO END FEB 2021

Very sad indeed but pre-dates the C5 filming apparently

There was preparation work prior to the filming though

Many questions being raised in the comments section of the Fb post, hope they can be answered

Cathy the film people are not really to blame , they asked for permission to be there and were given it , so the blame lays with Llyn Brenig or NRW or whoever gave that permission , I am sure the people filming didnt even know when they set up what a osprey was although perhaps they do now . Blame lies with the people that gave them permission although like you I certainly wont be watching the programme . We certainly have lots of questions that need answering , one thing I am sure of is that if filming had not started when it did at a crucial time in a young ospreys life she would not have been wandering far from that nest , as we know chicks are always around the parents waiting for the next meal . Hopefully we get answers but I have a terrible fear we may not in view of many lies in the past !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Valerie D said:

I certainly wont be watching the programme

I've just set the first episode to record from Channel4 tonight - hoping to get a good view of the area.

I do agree with you about where the blame likes, Valierie  

Scylla in fact I take back my comment saying I wont watch :) , perhaps we should all watch and see if there is any information we could use as evidence !!! , I love Llyn Brenig area , I always thought a wonderful place for ospreys but !!!

This is the link to the programme perhaps you should all watch it www.channel4.com/.../the-bridge , think of all the wildlife not just the ospreys !!!! flares set off day and night from a flashing beaconed tower !!!! trees cut down etc etc , the noise must have been horrific day and night . It is a wonder the ospreys stayed around as long as they did . Just unbelievable that this was allowed to happen , as I say no way do I hold the TV company responsible it is down to Llyn Brenig and Welsh Water , I see a comment made that somewhere between £10000 and £20000 was paid - as they say money talks -

UNbelievable and disgusting Bad enough all the animals scared and disturbed but cutting down trees permanently alters the habitat I don't understand why Welsh Water/Llyn Brenig can;t be charged with a wildlife crime

The organisation probably most fault here is in my view Welsh Water who thought that a150m exclusion zone around the nest was enough. NRW were only consulted very late in the day and NWWT not at all before the preparations started. The police and CPS do have a very difficult challenge; they have to have evidence of an offence which proves it beyond all reasonable doubt to gain a conviction. The circumstances around the discovery of KC5's remains gives a defence barrister enough opportunity to cast doubt. Either the production company or Welsh Water, if charged, would have big enough pockets to hire the sort of lawyers to get them off. Sorry if this is not what people want to hear, but it is how see it. I can't remember if the Wildlife and Countryside Act has provision to charge a company; if the charges would have to be laid against one or more individuals it gets even harder.

AG, Sadly, it does look like there may be enough wiggle room for those responsible to avoid any blame. Whether or not the Ospreys return to Llyn Brenig, the whole thing may mean that there will be an unfortunate added strain in relations between many individuals and organisations for some time to come. The world (and the world of conservation!) do not need any more division than we already have.