Unidentifiable night time bird call

6177.New Recording.m4a

if I have attached correctly……what is this?  Recorded around midnight in a large garden in suburban Hertfordshire.  Repeated three or four times, then three or four times about 100 metres away.  Has now occurred several nights running.  In the past we have had tawny owls but have been unable to find evidence of this call attached to them.

  • Hi blackhat,

    The only call I can hear on your recording occurs at about 8 secs in so I assume that's the one you are referring to. In order to make it easier for other people to hear I've extracted a small segment, amplified it a bit and done some noise reduction. This is the result.

    I think it might be a Red Fox rather than a bird. They do have quite a variety of vocalisations. Here's some examples I've found.

    Admittedly this one is from a captive fox but it sounds quite similar to your one

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUBs-nVt6Ho

    This next one is the typical scream but if you listen carefully there's what seems like a response in the background which again sounds simiar to what you are hearing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIg7M8oBn4A

    What do you think - am I on the right track?

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  • All I could hear on the original recording was noise and what sounded like someone moving around or, the mic.

    Mike

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  • If the two calls are the same creature and it's a bird I'd jump to ptarmigan or grouse myself. No clear ID jumping out at me though sorry.
  • In reply to Shezkah:

    Unlikely in "suburban Hertfordshire" I'd say Shezkah :o)
  • In reply to Shezkah:

    Shezkah said:
    If the two calls are the same creature and it's a bird I'd jump to ptarmigan or grouse myself.

    Seriously, in Hertfordshire????

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  • In reply to TeeJay:

    That’s the sound TeeJay. Interesting thoughts on a fox as we do have a more than a healthy presence here. The live call is rather more musical/melodic than the recording suggests and the perceived distance between the location of the calls would make it a bit of a sprinter. But I will keep the potential for a fox when trying to track it down..
  • In reply to Shezkah:

    Shezkah said:
    If the two calls are the same creature and it's a bird I'd jump to ptarmigan or grouse myself. No clear ID jumping out at me though sorry.

    Definitely not Ptarmigan! Ptarmigan are nearly always found above 3000 feet above sea-level and only found in the UK in Northern Scotland and mainly in the Cairngorms.

    Regards,

    Ian.

  • In reply to THOMO:

    THOMO said:

    Shezkah said:
    If the two calls are the same creature and it's a bird I'd jump to ptarmigan or grouse myself. No clear ID jumping out at me though sorry.

    Definitely not Ptarmigan! Ptarmigan are nearly always found above 3000 feet above sea-level and only found in the UK in Northern Scotland and mainly in the Cairngorms.

    https://www.rspb.org.uk/birds-and-wildlife/wildlife-guides/bird-a-z/ptarmigan

    Ptarmigan Bird Facts.

    Regards,

    Ian.

  • www.rspb.org.uk/.../
    Black Grouse Bird Facts.

    Regards,

    Ian.

  • To me it sounds a lot like the dog Fox we hear calling several times most evenings

    Pete

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