Satellite Tracked Ospreys (non-LG) Aug 2012 - Sep 2014

The Gambia and Guinea Bissau are not good areas for young ospreys. Ths list of casualties is growing :

Very sad Alan when you look at your Map.....  

Depressing news - I thought it was a good omen that she had been photographed earlier and had hoped she would stay in that park.   Alan's map showing the known birds is a sobering thought but how many others unknown?   Frightening.    

I was discussing the same thing yesterday Tempo, these are only the ones we know about.  I keep being told if all survived there would be too many, which would bring different problems.

I wonder if where they winter is in the genes, for instance if more wintered in Spain/Portugal maybe more would survive?

Lynda J said:

I wonder if where they winter is in the genes

Lynda, Personally I doubt that - and the main reason is LG's experience of tracking chicks from the nest. 

All 8 tracked to date have had EJ as a mother, and 4 of them (Rothes, Mallachie, Tore and Bynack) were definitely fathered by Odin.

Six (including Odin's four) went to sub-Saharan Africa, but didn't make for the same area at all - instead, they spread themselves out over the countries where UK ospreys in general are known to winter.

Then we have Caledonia staying in Spain; but her possible father, Blue XD, has himself been tracked to a wintering site in Senegal.

Lynda J said:

if more wintered in Spain/Portugal maybe more would survive?

I am just a novice at this but it seems to me that from January onwards the juveniles get into difficulties in Africa.      Nowhere is safe for them - look at Erika who had a freak accident for an experienced bird.

BlueYD update : Little change, fishing in the sea and roosting inland :

Fiddich has probably perished, I posted this on the summary thread earlier today. Maybe you missed it.

"RD reports that sadly Fiddich has been killed, either by a fishing net  or caught, signals coming from a village."

It would be wonderful, if I have jumped to the wrong conclusion!!

No I don't think you have jsb. The evidence looked pretty conclusive didn't it? Very sad indeed if Fiddich has ended up in the pot, but those people have to live too.