Tracking Loch Garten Ospreys : July 2011- May 2012

I offered yesterday to start a new Topic once Bynack had fledged, but as we now have the updated Satellite Tracking page, and biography pages for Tore and Bynack, and there are some tracking results for Tore on Google Earth, I’ve gone ahead with it.

A brief introduction to the ospreys we’re tracking – first, the class of 2011.

Torelink to her Biography

Tore is the elder of this year’s juveniles, her ring is blue/white 48. She fledged on Tuesday 12th July aged 54 days, and has started to do a little exploring.   

Bynack link to his Biography

Tore’s younger brother, ring blue/white 47. Bynack is aged 53 days today and has yet to fledge.

Edit: He has fledged, at 10.18 am today 16/7. 

Rothes link to her Biography

Rothes is the eldest of EJ and Odin’s offspring, hatched at Loch Garten in 2009. Her ring is white/black PJ. She migrated as a juvenile to Guinea-Bissau, and spent her formative months on the small island of Unhocomozinho, in the Bijagos Archipelago. Now a sub-adult, she has travelled north to Europe for the first time this summer and is currently in the Gironde estuary in SW France, where she also spent 6 weeks on her way south in 2009. So far, she has not returned to the UK.

Rothes' earlier travels were followed in this thread, now closed.  

  • Not sure if anyone else has done this but if you zoom right in on Bynack's little spider web where the road runs alongside the river you get into street view so you get to see where he has been fishing and roosting :)

    A very old Shropshire Lad.

  • Look for Brechaincourt look east for the white road with pointers for Sept 2,4 and 8 :)

    A very old Shropshire Lad.

  • Street level view does add something over the space-age appearance of ground view, doesn't it!  I wonder if our boy will develop a taste for the vine -- he is so close to Champagne & Burgundy.  This frivolity has nothing to do with the red liquid I am drinking...

  • What are the implications for Rothes? A message received from the LPO in France.

    "(Ospreys are sedentary in Corsica). In Continental France, 5 to 10 birds over-winter each year since 2000. We have 6 records of osprey in Charente-Maritime in december since 2009."

    So in Charente-Maritime in December during the winters of 2009/10 and 2010/11, a total of six records, which could be the same bird on more than one occasion.

    So where did these osprey come from? France, or young birds from northern Europe? Could it be possible that a bird would return from Africa, then over-winter in France, however unlikely that may be.

    ChloeB & Tiger's Osprey Data Site

    Sat track schedule Spring 2014

    LG 7 days; RW & SWT nil; LDOP varies

  • jsb This is very interesting!  Maybe my far out idea that  Rothes may decide to stay in France may not be as outlandish as it first seemed. Time will tell. It would make the trip back to the LG area much shorter and easier one :)

    Rothes has not been one to follow the normal patterns so far.

    The trackers are providing a lot of  previously unknown information. Roy Dennis said that Rothiemurchus traveled a much wider range than was thought done by  a  returning 2 year old.  It was thought  that a male 2 year old  returned to and stayed near  his natal nest area . 

    And until they tracked Beatrice they didn't know she wintered in Spain. 

    Formerly known as Barbara Jean

  • Rothes did not start moving south until 24th September 2009.  I guess we will have to wait to the end of September to get an idea.

    I think it is possible that he/she will not go back to Africa. I get the impression that the bird that came north not the bird that went south.

  • Rothes' damaged feathers lead me to  believe he/she had a bad experience on the Northern migration. These are intelligent birds and   he/she may not want to  repeat what ever happened on that  trip.

    Formerly known as Barbara Jean

  • Thanks Alan for pic of where Tore is staying for the moment.  Looks a delightful spot and no doubt plenty of fish for her.

    Margobird

  • Hazel b said:

    Rothes did not start moving south until 24th September 2009.  I guess we will have to wait to the end of September to get an idea.

    I think it is possible that he/she will not go back to Africa. I get the impression that the bird that came north not the bird that went south.

    As Tiger says 14th August is still well within the normal migration period, which can continue into November!! I suspect that Rothes will head south again, we know fromthe many partners that 08(97) had over the years that some Ospreys stop short of their natal site on their first return and stay for some months. With 08(97)'s partners some returned the following spring however after a short stay they continued their migration north. I suspect this maybe what will happen with Rothes, head south for winter, return to the Gironde next spring then continue the migration north after a stop over.

    However if Rothes is Female I wonder what the chances are of her finding a partner in the area next spring and staying at her stopover to breed?

    Have we heard anymore from LG or any experts on their opinions of the sex of Rothes?

  • Golly JSB -  there's a mouthful of info to digest.  Where did these Ospreys come from indeed.

    Most likely to still be non breeding Ospreys would you think ; not fully mature? Just fascinating.

    What implications for Rothes indeed.

    Well, time and data will tell  :)

    No doubt about it for me VESPA  :) when I saw the photo that,  oo , who was it now anyway, the lack of necklace decided it for me. Like his dad there was so little necklace and I reckon when he is properly mature Rothes will be another Odin.