Thanks Tiger hopefully can get a good view so that they will be able to ID this osprey.
Margobird
Looking at Sue's excellent spreadsheet, there appear to be plenty of options. 6 females with white rings over these three years from Glaslyn alone!
Tiger - that wasn't quite what I'd call explosive news! Well the possibilities seem to be as follows - assuming they were sexed correctly as chicks:
2007
Glaslyn - YB, Rutland B - YL, Rutland Manton - YK, Bassenthwaite YT (sex unknown) or YU.
YU is the female photographed by John Wright in Djoudj NP, Senegal - so confirmed alive as recently as 3 months ago.
2008
Glaslyn - YC, YD or YE
Rutland B - 01 or 03*
*Tiger - I took this from the now-deleted Rutland records but it has always seemed an anomaly - why on earth would they give a chick the same ring ID/colour as its own father, 03 (97)?
I have never found any details for Bassenthwaite in 2008.
2009
Glaslyn - 90 or 91
Bassenthwaite - 08 or 09
I'd have thought the Glaslyn trio from 2008 were the most likely candidates.
A long shot I know, but after what Val discovered I wonder if they've checked Spanish ringings?
Also ref Sue's comment above I googled for the the now deleted Rutland records in case they were still there. They weren't but I did manage to find a cached copy, which I've saved as a word doc
Tiger and SueC - Thanks for all your information. I have looked in my diary for 2008 and have for Bassenthwaite on Tues 8th July the 3 chicks ringed, as 2 females White YW and YV, and a male YY.
By the way I always wondered why there seems to be no system as such to the colours and letters/numbers for the rings. eg a colour for an area or a year perhaps. It all seems rather ad hoc. Of course as long as there are the central records and each is unique that is the main thing.
New nest at Bassenthwaite!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ospreywatch/
That is what I feared when they were not seen on the nestcam, and mention was made early on of the 'broccoli tree' last year they showed a lot of interest in that tree even bringing sticks in later on after the chicks had fledged. It is a shame as everything is set up for the old nest. If it is the same pair, the female moved nests before. Strange, it seems a very suitable nest, for the ospreys and for protecting. It will be tricky at the new place, I think.
I am hoping to going to go up there on Thursday.
Sue C I am not sure if you are aware of the goings on at Glaslyn over the last few years? Well if a Glaslyn female turned up at Dyfi I am sure it would be considered explosive.
Who said the Rutland records were deleted? :) I totally agree with you about giving a chick the same ID as its dad. Not a good idea.
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ChrisyB So another nest move at Bassenthwaite - though it does mean there are 2 vacant nests in the valley! Thanks for the 2008 chick details, though they raise another question - according to this blog and this one, YV was a male chick ringed in 2007.
Tiger Yes I have seen something about the "goings on" - though of course ospreys pay no attention to fallings-out between humans.
Hazel b said: Sue C I am not sure if you are aware of the goings on at Glaslyn over the last few years? Well if a Glaslyn female turned up at Dyfi I am sure it would be considered explosive. Who said the Rutland records were deleted? :) I totally agree with you about giving a chick the same ID as its dad. Not a good idea.
I agree with Tiger on this one. Can't see why any of the others could be explosive :)
Many thanks for the data Chrisy and Sue and agree with you Sue re the two 03s. Stupid idea.
Fingers crossed all will be revealed tomorrow :)
ChloeB & Tiger's Osprey Data