Much more to-ing and fro-ing from EJ on the nest yesterday, stickifying and searching the skies for her Potential Prince (cue the music Limpy thoughtfully provided for her). Maybe as more osprey move north, the possibilities will increase. Tomorrow is another day, and hopefully she is snoozing watchfully near the nest until the morning arrives and she can greet the Breakfast Club._______________________________________The Daily Update thread is for recording nest events only—any questions or conversations can happen on the Osprey Chat thread. Thank you!
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scylla said:Yes, it's BNN who must be credited and sincerely thanked for her public records!
So, Darvic - 08 Male—2009 Rutland O Red 08(01)Yellow 30(05) is a Male bird. So do male birds ringed on the right leg? If so this intruder was ringed on the left leg indicating a female bird?? And no bird is ringed with the same Darvic tag??? So cannot be Blue 08 can it?? Or am I missing something?? (Somewhat confused but that is easily done!!
Scottish birds are ringed on the left leg, English and Welsh on the right.
EJ was ringed before this became the set system.
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If I remember correctly Scylla the staff at LG could not decided on the now legendary Henry when he first arrived on the nest - whether he was male or female. They managed to get hold of Roy on the 'phone, gave him the ring number and asked if he was thought to be male or female when he was ringed. Roy checked and said he was a chick that had intermediary measurements when ringed so Henry's sex in Roy's notebook was recorded as '??'. While he was still on the phone Henry flew onto the female's back and left no-one in doubt as to his sex. :-)
Some people think Ospreys are a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that.
Monty proved he was male in the same way.
I see UK Ospreys have got ring Blue 08 on their site, with others which were missing from my spreadsheet - will add them
Irvine - I agree it can't be Blue 08, though for different reasons - Rutland ospreys (and indeed all others ringed in England & Wales) have the Darvic ring on the right leg, while in Scotland it's put on the left. IDs are occasionally repeated, but wouldn't have been in the relevant time period.
Edited: Sorry for the duplicate post, the others appeared before I hit post. :/Hope I'm ok to post this (I don't know how the leg ringing works Scotland/Wales/England differences) but I have added a link to a page that says a male osprey was ringed Blue 08 at Rutland in 2009...http://ukospreys.uk/rutland-breeding.htm
I would think that the Blue 08 Rutland Male would have been ringed on his right leg because of being an English bird, nothing to do with sex. This Blue 08? is left, the Scottish way of ringing.
Personally it is the behaviour / aggression, more than size/necklace that points me to thinking it is a female.
Did someone put the blue ring 80 on upside down?
Limpy said: Did someone put the blue ring 80 on upside down?
That's a thought! Looking up the charts, Blue 80 appears to be a 2012 Glaslyn male
Edit: Again, I would think this ring would be on the right leg?