Chicks 1,2 and 3. - photo ID's, markings, required please

To get round the "no rings" problem, I know it is a tall order. Please contribute, any relevant information or images that illustrate the significant differences, markings, mannerisms? Well you get the idea, I hope.

ChloeB & Tiger's Osprey Data Site

Sat track schedule Spring 2014

LG 7 days; RW & SWT nil; LDOP varies

  • Unknown said:

    Yes, think that's right - but it is very hard to tell them apart isn't it, this year?

    Here is a pic of what I think is #One, practicing

    --but not sure which one is on the right, watching. Could be #3,  as #2 has more white around the eye.

    The  one on the nest flapping it's wings has to be #3. I  can see the feet of #1  flying over head 

    That would make the  one on the right #2 

    I can't explain it  but #3's eyes look  different  to me 

    [/quote]Barbara-Jean. If #1 is in the air who is the third bird on the nest? Two facing  camera , one with back to it! I think it must be either EJ or Odin lifting off and three juvs on the nest. But you could be right about #3.

     

    think I've made another Booboo with this posting,

    The mind is like a parachute, it doesn't work if it's not open.

  • Hazel b said:

    One other way of helping to identify chicks is by stance. All birds have their own individual ways of standing and that can help a lot. I find that chick #3 is easy to ID when it is standing up and we are viewing its right side. It always looks very white.

    I agree Tiger. Also if  there are only   #2 & # 3 on the nest  then #2 is easy to identify by the way it holds it's head. #'s 1 & 3 hold their heads erect like Odin. In profile  view  #'s 1 & 3 look  like Odin 

    #2  seems to carry it's head down 

    In addition to  the white on the  side/top of #2's  head it is  larger , has darker feathers and on a side  view  it has  less white  "edging"  on it's wing  feathers.

     It is also usually the  first  "flat down" on the nest if there is an alarm call. :) 

     

     

    Formerly known as Barbara Jean

  • jsb said:

    Field identification of individual ospreys using head marking pattern.

    This abstract comes from a book 'Wildlife Management', this may offer us the best option I have seen so far for helping to identify our chicks in the future, if by chance a sighting in suitable circumstances does occur, post-migration.

    Abstract: Indentification of individual birds in the field is difficult and usually requires capture and handling. With some species, capture can be impossible, harmful, or prohibited. In these cases an alternative means of identification is warranted. We analysed the pattern of the black marks that appear on the dorsal aspect of the head in osprey. Variation existed among individuals and it was possible to identify individuals because black marks were distinct in size, shape and number. Head marks changed only slightly from year to year, which allowed individual identification in the field without disturbing the birds.

    End quote.

    'dorsal' refers in our case to the top or back area of the head.

    Many have already noted these very differences in our chicks. I would therefore invite you to add to the blog with first hand observations, with illustrations, but also without if you prefer. Thank you for your co-operation, which should enable us to come to an agreed position. Even when the birds have all fully fledged and image capture will be more difficult, we have a vast library of images, both personal and on these webpages to fall back on.

    http://www.jstor.org/pss/3809565

     

     

     

    Head shots and other shots of #1, from today's Daily Update, many thanks to those who posted.

    #1 on right side.

     

    more photos to post, but site is refusing to take them at present, will try later.

    ChloeB & Tiger's Osprey Data Site

    Sat track schedule Spring 2014

    LG 7 days; RW & SWT nil; LDOP varies

  • More captures of #1, continued from above..........

    ChloeB & Tiger's Osprey Data Site

    Sat track schedule Spring 2014

    LG 7 days; RW & SWT nil; LDOP varies

  • Captures of #2

    ..........and thanks again to those who provided these shots.

    ChloeB & Tiger's Osprey Data Site

    Sat track schedule Spring 2014

    LG 7 days; RW & SWT nil; LDOP varies

  • DjoanS said:

    I took this pic this morning of all three in a row ... I can't identify them, but somebody else will be able to!

     

    From left to right we have Middle juve Youngest (in the middle  :)  ) and Eldest on the right.

     

  • One other thing which can help with ID is the shape of the feet. All ospreys have different shaped feet.

  • Cirrus in the above capture I would have said  #3 on left,  #2 in centre and  #1 on right.