Thanks to all of you for your support. And Gary, lovely to hear from you again. I wonder if you have another trip planned. Maybe I could go next time!
Regarding the question of licensing versus ban, Mr I, I think you know our line and its justification. On Monday, I shall share an opportunity as to how we can all come together to make the case for action.
Regarding the options of either calling for the Licensing Driven Grouse Moors or their banning, I think at this stage it is not that important which you think is best and one can reasonably support both routes. After all their objectives are exactly the same, namely to stop the illegal killing of birds of prey and to stop the trashing of our uplands. One route offers a much clearer result but politically may be much more difficult to achive. The other route may be easier to achieve, (but still difficult) but with less guarantee of total effectiveness, (although technical advances in bird tracking and location may well help in this respect).
I see no problem in totally supporting the RSPB approach while at the same time signing Mark Avery's e-petition for the banning of driven grouse moors, which I have done.
I think as events unfold in this campaign it may well become clearer if one route can offer a better result than the other, but at this stage one can't tell for sure. So vigorously support the RSPB's campaign but also sign the Mark Avery e-petition and attend next year's Hen Harrier Day, is my advice.
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Well said, Martin. I am sure that members of the Society will be pleased to see this response. We shall just have to wait and see what the MoS tries to throw at you.
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Well said Martin! I do tend to agree with Glossy Ibis that a more stringent approach in banning driven grouse shooting is required.
Keep up the great work
There is no bigger supporter of the RSPB than myself and I fully respect Martin's stance concerning the attack on the RSPB by the Ian Bothams and David Roses of this world. But after many years attempting to get the shooting lobby to obey the law and totally failing, I believe the RSPB's attempt at licensing grouse moors is flawed and impractical. I cannot see how it can possibly be policed and sustained without an enormous increase in resources and the improbable co-operation of the grouse moor owners.
I now believe that we should fully support the e-petition for a ban, get the signatures up to 100,000 by urging all members to sign the petition and get a full debate in parliament.
Richard.