Moving to Mirrorless

Well, I've finally done it, and ordered a new Canon R5.

Some of you may have seen my comments about looking into new cameras and gear in another post, A couple of days by the River Deben in Suffolk, and my apologies to Dave for the unintended hijack so I've set up a new thread to keep folks updated.

To continue from my comments, as many of you will be aware, I've been grounded by my falling apart body, but i've nothing but praise for the nurses, consultants, doctors and anyone else involved it working hard to resolve the situation.

We've all heard the old saying, the devil makes work for idle hands, well, include computer and mouse into that, and I've been researching into mirrorless cameras, which is the future, whether we like it or not.

Me, I'm intrigued and like the concept, but not the costs.....

Why the Canon R5?

Well, first and foremost, my son said go for it!

Some of you may be aware his partner walked out on him eighteen months ago, which almost rendered him homeless. While we would happily have taken him back, after a chat with my wife, his mother, I gave him a large chunk of my savings and agreed to be guarantor for his mortgage. I never gave any repayment terms, but he did ask how much, and has transferred some of the money back to me, enough to cover the R5.

I've been using Canon cameras for many decades, and I feel they are on a par with Nikon and the other big brand names, the only problem is, if you change to another brand, then you need to change all your lenses and other associated kit as well.

My research started with the cost of upgrading and also, many camera manufacturers also offer conversion kits, or adapters, so you can use your existing lenses on the new breed of cameras.

Also, my research shown that could I use my existing lenses, the cable and wireless remotes would work, so will the Speedlite flashgun. The only extra items required are the lens mount adaptor, and the memory cards, which are still the existing SD Card, or, the faster and more capable CF Express card, whereas  the 5D4 will use a Compact Flash card.

Also, the battery pack for the R5 is the same is the 5D4, which I understand is the same as the 5D3.

This appealed.

However, the cost was still going to be steep.

My local postie, who we had for 20+ years, a very friendly chap, I never realised he did wedding photography, and offered to show me his cameras, which are Nikon, and how he managed to make the change to mirrorless.

We both agreed, Nikon, Canon or any of the other big names, you can't really go wrong.

After a very interesting three hours and numerous cuppas, and some time handling his cameras in the garden, and to play safe, I sat down to use them rather than stand and risk falling or dropping them, I was nicely impressed with what I saw.

There are some trade offs and caveats with electronic view vs live view, but I'm not one to be negative. Obstacles are there to be beaten, not beat you.

The one big downside, if it is a downside, is video. The final quality is good, however, when panning a moving subject, there is a noticeable lag. But then I don't do much video, and to be honest, my current 5D4 has some lag, because that in video mode uses the large TTF screen and not the optical viewer, which is live view.

I said obstacles are to be beaten, not beat you.

The video quality is superb, and a bigger plus, the electronic viewfinder shows the same as the large TTF screen, but the big bonus with the EVF, is you block out all the viewing intrusions that using a TTF screen came impose.

There will be more to this no doubt, as I start a new journey mirrorless, and I will be happy to share.

However, it is costly, and to make things more costly than desired, my nearest emporium haven't stock of the R5, so I've had to order from elsewhere, and not being able to go far, that means no trade in of my 5D4, which if I'm honest, I am reluctant to part with.

The new camera is on order, and should be with me in the next couple of days, all I need  is for my leg to sort itself out.

  • So, new camera, and new lens acquired... first experimental shots, no adjustments, just cropped. Fuller details to follow in due course :o)  (overall I'm mightily impressed!)

  • Looking good PB. What have you gone for?

  • Thanks BD, upgraded Nikon z7ii to z8, and was lucky enough to get one of the 1st batch of the new 180-600 lenses. Picked it up yesterday so had half hour before Mrs PB got home from work! Thought I'd start with easy stuff... y'know those slow moving, always predictable House Martins lol
  • PimperneBloke said:
    Thought I'd start with easy stuff... y'know those slow moving, always predictable House Martins lol

    Yeah, right ....... dead easy!  LOL!!!!!!!!

    Our herring gulls are red listed birds.  Think about that the next time you hear some flaming idiot calling for a cull of them.

  • PimperneBloke said:
    Thanks BD, upgraded Nikon z7ii to z8, and was lucky enough to get one of the 1st batch of the new 180-600 lenses. Picked it up yesterday so had half hour before Mrs PB got home from work! Thought I'd start with easy stuff... y'know those slow moving, always predictable House Martins lol

    Had half an hour before Mrs PB got home from work .... Then hid it .. Laughing

    Like the man said to his mate, 'when I die, don't let the wife sell my camera gear for what I told her I paid for it' ... Blush

  • PimperneBloke said:

    So, new camera, and new lens acquired... first experimental shots, no adjustments, just cropped. Fuller details to follow in due course :o)  (overall I'm mightily impressed!)

    Brilliant photos.

    Ref hiding the new camera from your wife, beware, your sins will catch you out.....

    Once you've explored with the settings more, you'll not want to put the camera down. Pssst, we don't want you to either, but don't get caught

    regards

    John

  • For anyone owning or thinking of buying a Canon R7 you might want watch Duade Paton's video about the autofocus issues he's experienced

    https://youtu.be/hsmY4f1J0t8

    The admisson from Canon is surprising but honest

    This earlier video is what prompted his investigations.

    https://youtu.be/CIbHENAY3ss

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  • Mrs PB and myself were both on days off today, and as I tend to do, I woke up earlier than her. I decided to whack the 1.4 TC on the camera and see what happened... Again, no work done, just cropped

  • Can't make them full screen for some reason ... Confused

  • The conclusion of my not very extensive, completely unscientific testing is as follows:

    The AF on the z8 is fabulous. I think like most modern camera's, once the AF has acquired focus the tracking is awesome. However, keeping a House Martin in full flow in your viewfinder using a 600mm + 1.4TC (equivalent to 840mm) is nigh on impossible for more than a few seconds... The other plus side of the z8 is 20 frames per second (up to 120 fps with a lower image quality) so even with limited time in the viewfinder, you can still get a good number of shots to choose from.
    However... with 20 fps, you WILL end up with 100's of shots to sort through!
    The eye detect is also great, it locked on to a pigeons eye from about 40 yards away, and stuck as it strutted along the top of the wall.

    I'll add more as I find out more :o)