Shooting Cormorants and Goosanders

Wondered if any of you have seen this and wish to comment:

http://www.talkangling.co.uk/upload/announcements-news/51477-call-cormorants-goosanders-added-general-licence.html

Simon Young

www.talkangling.co.uk

  • Simon,  I think you may get a lot of comments (I hope constructive comments) but people on this site should know that your website is the one that has put out this announcement and has commented on it.

    I will not be taking part because I am occasionally employed in monitoring breaches of the current licences and it would be wrong of me to make a comment.

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  • In reply to Bob Philpott:

    My constructive comment is the joint statement is as one sided/loaded as many Countryside Alliance supported 'initiatives' are. Just to quote one section:- "Goosanders were also not recorded in the UK in any significant number before the last century. Their massive growth in numbers has upset the natural balance of our freshwater environment". Have goosander numbers gone up or down in the last 15 years? Where is the evidence for ongoing 'massive growth' in the webtrends link provided here. (or anywhere else)? How on earth is it possible for about 6000 birds to wreck the UK's aquatic ecosystem?!?!

  • In reply to Robbo:

    Think we need some control on anglers who leave litter behind and worse still lots of discarded tackle for all water birds to get tangled up in.Uderstand the part about Cormorants but local fishing lakes of about 20 acres in size have had about 3 Goosanders on lakes for about one day in past 10 years so I fail to see any problem with them especially as my guess is they only take small fish that the anglers hate catching as they want 10lb plus Carp.

  • In reply to Sooty:

    I don't particularly like Cormorants but what right has anyone to go about killing them, are we to do the same to Herons or Seals in the open seas and river estuaries, where do you stop. I think I might lobby Cormorants and Goosanders to have a cull on another 'species' that catch fish for sport

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/16304936@N06/

    http://suffolk.activeboard.com/f528553/birds-of-suffolk/

  • In reply to John Cooper:

    Wildlife just doing its best to survive is inconveniencing my hobby - Kill kill kill......!

    Sometimes I feel ashamed to be a member of the human race.

    Every day a little more irate about bird of prey persecution, and I have a cat - Got a problem with that?

  • In reply to John Cooper:

    This has been mooted before under general licence but I am not sure how the "quota" is checked,members of one club fairly local to us brag that they exceed their numbers but of course there is little way of policing it.

    Pete

    Birding is for everyone no matter how good or bad we are at it,enjoy it while you can

  • In reply to Seaman:

    Because of the actions of the human race in over-fishing, pollution and disturbance of habitat, these birds have moved inland. Now so-called sportsmen wish them elsewhere or dead because they compete for the fish they need to survive? The fishing lobby should be thoroughly ashamed of its inhumanity.

    A thing of beauty is a joy forever.

  • In reply to Rach:

    I think the angling clubs will want a cull because in many cases they are paying to restock the waters and so are paying to feed the birds.In our area we do not seem to have enough Goosanders to damage any waters and Cormorants are not that numerous either but clubs still want a cull.They may be jealous as maybe birds catch more fish than anglers but there again so do Kingfishers.

    Pete

    Birding is for everyone no matter how good or bad we are at it,enjoy it while you can

  • Last week these three were having a field day, there was another 73 in the trees waiting their turn in between feeds, lovely to watch:)

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/16304936@N06/

    http://suffolk.activeboard.com/f528553/birds-of-suffolk/

  • In reply to John Cooper:

    John Cooper said:
    Last week these three were having a field day, there was another 73 in the trees waiting their turn in between feeds, lovely to watch:)

    Unless you are an angler of course,then you start priming your musket !!

    Pete

    Birding is for everyone no matter how good or bad we are at it,enjoy it while you can