Neighbour shooting wood pigeons with an air rifle

  • Hi Nicki and welcome to the forum.

    I am sorry to hear of the trouble you are having with your neighbour, you may find some of the answers you are looking for in the thread linked below,

    http://www.rspb.org.uk/community/forums/t/20339.aspx?PageIndex=3

    Warden Intern at Otmoor.

  • In reply to IanH:

    those poor, poor birds.. and poor you and your neighbours having to witness it.. it makes me so sad when i hear of stories like this.. what's happening with the authorities nicki? did you get any further forward?

    i really hope someone is doing something somewhere.. :(

    x x x x x x

    we do not inherit this earth.. we borrow it from our children..

  • In reply to AliBop:

    If he is firing at birds it could result in his airgun pellet dropping over his border, especially if the targets are up in tree. He can be prosecuted.  I don't mind airguns being used for proper pest control like rats and grey squirrels but he should certainly not be shooting at tree based targets in his garden. He should be aiming only at low ground targets and at nothing that could result in the pellet ending up outside of his garden, ideally at paper targets with a backstop to prevent pellets from bouncing out of bounds.

  • In reply to Robin F:

    Thank you for all your comments and suggestions. We did phone the police and even showed the police person you called round a dead bird but they looked at us as through we were very odd. I dont know if they spoke to him but he continues now and then to shoot pigeons magpies and the occasional parakeet. Maybe a concerted effort to record his shootings ??

  • I dont believe in my eyes when reading your story. I wonder how a man can shoot those lovely pegeons. After some searchs, I found he is not the one who want to shoot the bird for relax. Here is a collection of someone like him www.jefklak.com/wood-pigeon-hunting-air-rifle

  • In reply to Tri N:

    Unfortunately he is strictly speaking within the bounds of the law. The law against discharging a firearm near a property not belonging to the firearm's owner only applies to gunpowder based firearms and not to air rifles. He is only breaking the law if the pellets go over the boundary into your property. Also, whilst it is against the law to brandish any firearm in a public place, he is perfectly within his rights to do so on his own property, even if the area in question is in the public view.

    Feral (urban) pigeons are legal game with an air rifle. However, eating them is highly inadvisableas as they carry many diseases and parasites. So more fool him. The only thing you could probably get him on if the pellets aren't landing on your property is his bad hunting etiquette. From your description the way he is dispatching them is quite inhuman and not what you'd call a 'clean kill'. Whilst this isn't strictly speaking illegal in itself, if he proves to make a habit of it rather than it being one bad kill he can get in trouble for that.

  • Shooting of wood pigeon is not illegal, neither is shooting wood pigeon in your garden. But there are rules in place that make it legal. Firstly his rifle must be below 12ft lbs without a FAC licence. To shoot in your garden you can't be closer than 50 yards from a main highway, the pellet can't leave the shooters property. The shooting of pigeon is also legal as long as they are a threat, for example I grow veg and protect them with netting from wood pigeon but they still get through and kill my crop, so legally I can shoot them and eat them. But for me to shoot just because I am hungry is illegal and I could get prosecuted. I understand your concerns and perhaps Mr X should practice more to avoid a inhumane kill and also give his neighbours a heads up to keep the piece.

  • Some kids were shooting each other with a pelet gun in our local park.I spoke to a beat policeman who said to call police if ANY kind of gun was being used in a public place, he said they would atend straight away and would even put the helicopter up!

    isn't wild wonderful

  • In reply to Anthony James:

    All wild birds are protected by law though some species may be controlled by lethal means through a licensing system operated by Natural England. Certain species, Wood Pigeons being one, currently appear on a general licence which is freely available to landowners or other authorised persons. General licences don't have to be applied for but can only be exercised in specific circumstances. The list of species appearing on all of the general licences is reviewed annually.

    Wood pigeons are on this year's general licence permitting the killing or taking of certain ‘pest species’, or the destruction of their nests or eggs, by authorised persons for the purposes of preventing the spread of disease or serious damage to livestock, agriculture or fisheries interests; preserving air safety; conserving wild birds; and preserving public health and public safety.

    It should be noted here that killing for the purpose of getting a cheap meal isn't covered by the general licence.

    Every day a little more irate about bird of prey persecution, and I have a cat - Got a problem with that?

  • In reply to Tri N:

    The problem as I see it is that with regard to the law he isn't (most of the time) committing an offence.  As has been mentioned it is when the pellets leave his property that the offence occurs.  I know it might be difficult but trying to collect or mark where you find any before you call the police might help.

    It might also get more results if you asked to speak to the Wildlife Officer rather than just any police man. The other consideration is how far is it from the centre of any road and is he shooting (at any time) towards the road.