Fireworks

I have to say, I was a little surprised to read that there was no evidence to suggest fireworks have any harmful effect on wildlife, until I read the article, and it makes sense.

Not many birds will be mating at this time of year, the current weather conditions are not conjusive to a successful brood and once winter gets going, food stocks will become thin, and feeding a brood takes a lot of food, as any human parent will know if they've had/have children/grandchildren.

The RSPB does show concern with regard roosting, however, the big problem with anything like this, is policing.

What does make sense, but that doesn't mean I agree or disagree with it, I'm not qualified to pass an informed comment, is the part about thunder storms.

The article I presume you refer to is on the following link: https://www.rspb.org.uk/birds-and-wildlife/advice/how-you-can-help-birds/dangers-to-birds/fireworks-and-birds/

For those like me curious, I've copied and pasted the text below:

It is that article Mike, but I'm still not convinced and I'll tell you why.
The RSPB state that the effect on wild birds is little difference to that of a thunderstorm.
Ok let's examine that. Birds are sentinent creatures in tune with and adapted to living in their environment.
They no doubt can sense an approaching thunderstorm, eg changes to air pressure, temperature, wind.
Thunderstorms approach from one direction and build gradually, birds have ample warning of an imminent storm and the rumble of thunder often but not always increases as a storm approaches.
Fireworks are a different kettle of fish entirely, there is no warning ,no changes in environmental conditions.
Just an immediate and often incredibly loud and sudden kerboom ! Enough to frighten and stress any creature.
Yes this is all conjecture but can the RSPB prove this is not the case ?
The decibel level of some modern fireworks is akin to a bomb exploding, the shockwave of sound is huge and any night flying creature for example a bat would no doubt be severely traumatised and possibly killed.
Same for Owls who would take flight and roosting birds.
Summer firework shows and even private parties are increasingly common, with extremely loud detonations that can happen at anytime.
This obviously is impossible to police and yes the RSPB can ask politely not to have Fireworks near sensitive wildlife sites but cannot stop it.

But what about the damage to urban and suburban wildlife ? Bats and Owls can live in close proximity to human habitations and Fireworks must impact on them.
The Tawny Owl is now an Amber listed species with long term population declines, who can prove fireworks aren't a contributing factor ?

The chemical cocktail released by fireworks also poisons the local atmosphere and must affect moths and insect populations in close proximity as well as the explosions themselves, all prey species for bats in particular.

The environmental damage done by fireworks is in my opinion unknown, but I suspect is an important contributing factor .
I would like to see the RSPB's science behind their statement, instead of just believing what they publish...

David M

I fully follow your thoughts which is why I said I was surprised, and I feel the same, it is not fully understood plus I didn't agree nor disagree due to the lack of information. I've no doubt there is data out there, but not in that piece.

I deliberately chose to say "I'm not qualified to pass an informed comment" because I'm not, my trade (which was the automotive industry and later years before retirement with prototypes) was not around this area, though like you, taking in the obvious realities, I feel more is required to fully understand the impacts.

Why did it make sense?

Having worked with data for many years, to ensure a project goes forward, its all too easy to get the numbers to tell the story you want to portray, something I saw and still see a lot with HS2, something I'm surrounded with. The desecration to nature has been worse than horrendous and all the government do is pay lip service to it.

For close on two years whilst recovering from major leg surgery, I watched the televised parliamentary debates around this wanton destruction, and the way the data was portrayed was beyond belief!

So looking at the twist in the scarce information in that piece, that is why I say it makes sense, but I didn't say I agreed with it.

To quote Mark Twain: "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics", which strangely enough was about a British politician!

https://www.fireworkskingdom.co.uk/occassions/silent-fireworks

For a number of years anyone has been able to buy from some UK companies, fireworks called silent fireworks. Although not 100% silent! These are low noise fireworks. I have heard and seen these fireworks and they are a very good alternative with low noise and won’t frighten wild birds and animals along with anyone’s pets such as dogs and cats.

soundproofpanda.com/.../
Silent/Low Noise Fireworks: How Good Are They And What Are They!
It explains as well how these fireworks work! Hope this link works

We own and live on ONB Land. It is home to multiple wildlife , and we also have pet dogs, ducks and a goat. Increasingly, the fireworks have become nearer and louder. All our pets and wild life suffer terribly as a result of fireworks. They are terrified, yet there is nothing we can do to stop the noise and smell !! - what about the environment - COP!! It’s so wrong . Especially when silent fireworks are available!! Having grown up with fireworks, the ones today are just miniature bombs and should be banned!!!

Janey, I'm curious on 'ONB land', and not wanting to assume wrongly what would be the obvious, could you clarify 'ONB'.