• I know I should not humanize the birds, but this handsome chap Monty with his big fish, sitting there, not eating but staring around, looks like he waits and keeps the fish and does not yet touch it just in case it will be needed for a lovely skydance for his girl... *sigh* (get some tissues out *sigh*)

    Cats and women will do as they please. Dogs and men should relax and get used to it.

  • Alex lol:-)

    Now I have a problem with this word 'humanising' and there is a difference between making an observation, which you have done, and 'humanising' which to me would be, for example, dying a poodle pink and dressing it up in clothes.

    Only my opinion, but from watching different animals over the years (domestic and wild) it is demonstrated that they DO experience emotions, same as us. And they can also suffer from psychosomatic disorders, such as depression.

    So carry on Alex, it's fun and interesting to imagine what they may be thinking. And think, they definately must do as they make conscious decisions throughout their lives.

  • Of course they can MIMS. Absolutely with you there. A person would have to be brain dead not to see emotional felt by the birds !! Why do  they do ''their nut''  over intruders ... there's strong emotion if ever there was one. And Monty definitely got  cross with the crows yesterday

  • Still waiting, looking, with fish......starting to eat again....

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  • Hi Cirrus and Badgie:-)

    Cirrus thank you, and maybe one day the definition of the word 'humanising' or anthropomorphizing (thank god for the spell checker) will be re-defined lol

  • As living creatures they must have feelings.    Two years ago I saw a sad sight.    A female black bird had been killed on the road (you know how they swoop out) and obviously her mate was standing over her on the road.     Dont tell me he hadnt feelings.   And prior to that I came across a swallow lying on the road which at the time I presumed was dead and quite a few swallows were diving over it in an attempt to get it up which I thought was fruitless and sad.   Half an hour later I came back the route and no swallow on the road.   It had obviously been stunned and their encouragement saved it.      Last year our female swallow literally died hanging to the side of the nest having exhausted herself feeding the young which were about to fledge.    We didnt know what to do but the male appeared an hour later with a flock of swallows and hovered at the garage door and 3 of the young flew out.   Although all fledged during the day it is very doubtful if the two smallest made it.    

  • Tempo such a sad tale - and it's so hard for all our wildlife. The observations speak for themselves don't they? That's why it's hard to understand how those who think they don't make choices or have emotions etc come to that conclusion

  • http://www.dyfiospreyproject.com/stream

    For those who are late in and miss Monty on his perch, here's a little clip

  • it pulls at the heart watching Monty, but has Nora been this late before,and what will Monty do if she fails to show up, although... its only been about 5days so really  l'm thinking in Osprey terms maybe this is not a long time at all

  • Sighting at Belvide reservoir in Staffordshire. Flew west at 13:45. Big day today for osprey sightings all over the country.